Sep. 4th, 2014 12:19 pm
On Gwen Stacy & fridging
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subjunctiveI made a comment in the Yuletide pimp post about Gwen Stacy being fridged and got taken to task for it (rightfully, as I haven't read the comic; good job, self). At the time I just considered it one of those self-evident facts that ~everyone knows~, akin to saying Clark Kent and Lois Lane date. Not the case, it turns out! Some interesting discussion popped up about it.
I'm having trouble linking to the specific comment (LJ, ugh) but here's the post and my comment is pretty easy to find - I think it's #11 or 12. Anyway, someone else brought up Simone's original list (Gwen's on it, which I knew) and an interesting quote from the writer of The Night Gwen Stacy Died. The commenter also explained much more clearly and coherently why, in general terms, you can say that a story contains fridging but that it's still a good story (which I fumbled, I think, IDK what I was thinking for that second comment).
I also posed the question to FFA, knowing SOMEONE would be able to enlighten me if there was disagreement or controversy. Responses were mixed: Some said they've read the comic and that she was fridged, others that they haven't read the comic but also heard she was fridged, and still others that said she was not fridged (wish they would say why?). Probably the best point that was made is that the Gwen story happened before pretty much all the others (well before even the trope namer), which I didn't know, and that it isn't fair to judge it as taking part in a larger trend when the trend wasn't even around yet.
I'm having trouble linking to the specific comment (LJ, ugh) but here's the post and my comment is pretty easy to find - I think it's #11 or 12. Anyway, someone else brought up Simone's original list (Gwen's on it, which I knew) and an interesting quote from the writer of The Night Gwen Stacy Died. The commenter also explained much more clearly and coherently why, in general terms, you can say that a story contains fridging but that it's still a good story (which I fumbled, I think, IDK what I was thinking for that second comment).
I also posed the question to FFA, knowing SOMEONE would be able to enlighten me if there was disagreement or controversy. Responses were mixed: Some said they've read the comic and that she was fridged, others that they haven't read the comic but also heard she was fridged, and still others that said she was not fridged (wish they would say why?). Probably the best point that was made is that the Gwen story happened before pretty much all the others (well before even the trope namer), which I didn't know, and that it isn't fair to judge it as taking part in a larger trend when the trend wasn't even around yet.